Ok, so I was creating myself a playlist to listen to while I studied physics and I really felt like listening to older music. and so many things I listen to now were written and like top of the charts in the 60s and it makes me wonder, like wow music is shit now.
Don't get me wrong, I like it and listen to it, etc. But like relative to the 60s music, it is a pile of shit.
Like I cannot see Justin Bieber or Lady Gaga becoming classics (they will and I will rage about that another time) I guess it's just the way it is, but it just seems like music now is kinda shit compared to like 1960s music.
Yeh that's it really.
EDIT: Ok, I understand where you are coming from, and of course, I have only been looking at the good music and ultimately, there is a lot of good music to come from this age.It's true that there is good music now, and I think my problem may be, more related with the genres and my mood at the moment.
I don't want to go out and make a brash statement, but at the moment I do prefer to listen to music that isn't full of electronic voices.
I guess my problem lies partly in that, I don't really like dubstep or rap a huge amount. Rap more so than dubstep, and I guess I have just been sorta overwhelmed with it. I do like Lady Gaga and Adele and all the other artists, I just prefer to listen to older songs at the moment and I should be allowed to say that.
Also that was just how it seemed to be to me, I know it's not necessarily the case, but it'd be nice if you took my opinion without calling me a hipster. There is no need to go off at me, I am just putting out my point of view. You can agree or disagree and I don't have a complete world view, calm down. This is just how I feel about music at this point in time. Next time, I won't feel as likely to share my opinions cause they are just going to get shut down.
Just something to think about.
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your post is an understatement.
The music you listen to was revolutionary; and now it is completely target operated. They had no intention, but to create and explore new heights with their music for everybody.
Modern music is painful to every repetitive three and a half minutes of it.
Are we becoming stupid?
Or just over indulgent in specific genres?
Its almost...manipulative.
okay, you know what, sorry. but no.
i am so fucking sick of hearing this shit. "music is all so shit now, it was so awesome in the past." fuck. cause like, i guess that's just who i hang out with, but seriously?
no. music then was just as 'formulaic' as it is now. back then there were two kinds of songs - the formulaic ones and the ones that stood out. now, there are two types of songs - the 'formulaic ones' and the ones that stand out (rolling in the deep, single ladies, kids etc., which will be the songs we remember) at the moment, there is a huge explosion of genre going on in the field of electronic music with dubstep moving up to take a mainstream position and to a lesser extent drum and bass. hip-hop as another example is, i know, evolving completely. in the past it was all funk-based, but now hip-hop beats can consist of whatever the fuck you want. and whilst this means, shit, its sometimes appaling. some modern rap is fucking incredible (the entire kanye west's mbdtf album. i reccomend it the most out of any album, and probably watch the throne out tomorrow by ye and jay z) the only difference really between now and then is that the taste of popular music has changed. nowadays, the popular genre is more electronic. this is only because the methods of producing music have developed in parallel with technologies. so therefore, completely digitally created music is possible where before it would have sounded shit. this is why digitally-created music is so popular now - it has the possibility of sounding good.
also, the other half of my argument. the only music we remember and listen to from the past is the good stuff. we don't know the shit stuff from the 60s, the completely generic formulaic music, such as 'skinny minnie' (legit, this is a song that was popular.) and all the bands that sound like the beatles and the stones. we don't listen to, now, all the shit stuff from the 80s. we only listen to the good stuff. and that is what we see as good.
In every generation (just to be making a rationalisation here) eventually there is gonna be 'stuff was better in my day.' the only problem is that us, as the younger generation, have inherited a sense of this from our parents, who were there for the birth of music essentially. popular music started essentially in the early 60s but it was the 70s and 80s that really got the ball rolling. thus, as popular music of the sort that we have and our parents had wasn't really around for our grandparent's generation, we sort of accept when our parents say 'stuff now is shit. stuff then was good.' because they weren't exposed to it. however, i can assure you we will all think popular music was better in our day when we are much better. remember, fundamentally, humans aren't very open to change. (conceptual leap)
(to be continued, we on that normanella shit, searching for the truth even if it go through taylor swift, tell her this.)
ultimately, i understand that everyone has their own sense of what's good and bad in terms of music (thats a fundamental part of my worldview at the moment) and yeah, good for you if you prefer older songs or more analogue songs. however, just don't look at the past with rose-petal glasses: remember that the shit stuff will be forgotten, and the amazing stuff will be remembered. I'm pretty sure we will only remember baby because of how famous it's gotten. we won't remember, for example, take over control by afrojack (admittedly i fucking love that song, i will listen to it forever) but we will remember the songs that define our time, like over the last 10 years, the big songs we remember will be (i think) kids by MGMT, single ladies by beyonce and rolling in the deep by adelle. that's because these are three examples of probably the biggest standout songs in our generation, because of their songwriting incredibleness (and also the video clip for single ladies). think about it, they are the songs everyone will cover in the future. other standout artists in popular music include the gorillaz, coldplay, kanye west, and to an extent lady gaga. there are hundreds of songs we won't remember and a few we will.
so yeah. what we need to do is remember that when we deal with the past we are looking at it with nostalgia goggles, not remembering all the shit that came out of it. we don't do this with the present thus the present < the past. like whatever music you want but just be aware of this automatic bias towards the past, and also hypocracy*.
also lady gaga is fucking incredible. like, fuck. JU_DAS JU_DA_A_ASS
also this is something i take pretty personally, obviously, and its something i think about a fair amount. this is actually one of the few things i feel very passionately about, as it crosses two of the boundaries of two things i feel strongly for: avoiding prejudice and music (especially taste in music).
also underground music, if you are convinced that mainstream is shit now. you fucking hipster.
there are whole scenes based on awesomeness and avoiding formulaic and established ways of music.
*not that being a hypocrite means anything, it's a fundamental part of human nature and one of only two types of insults possible - calling someone hypocritical and saying someone has negative qualities assosciated with themself. imo, its the weakest of the two - it means almost nothing. I think if people could be aware that they are all hypocritical, things would be a lot better. also if they drop the retarded notion that humans behave rationally. two things we should all accept, i think, are that everyone's hypocritical and everyone (unless otherwise stated) will act irrationally.
THANK YOU SAM. I completely agree with everything you said. Everyone has this focus on the past because everyone has been raised to think that the old, classic stuff is better than whatever's happening now. I love some old music, but generalisations like that are just ridiculous.
I'd plead with anyone to listen to Melanie Fiona's Gone & Never Coming Back and try telling me it's bad music.
Good points, if thats your belief then thats cool.
But try not to get pissed off over other peoples opinions so easily- fair enough you feel immensely strongly about it, however as stated people aren't very subject to change...
eye liek old n nue muzik. dem is both gud n nice 2 lisen 2.
eye jus tink dat nue muzik iz moar complex den old muzziks.
beaquase i tink so.
eye meen:
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Wow, that came off sounding really shitty to you. I really don't want to discourage you from posting your own opinions, I am so sorry... This blog is where youre sposed to do that... I wasn't actually calling you a hipster by the way, That was just like, a non-serious sort of addition to the statements.
Um, if it's any justification, I was drunk when I wrote that, hence all the swear words just randomly inserted into it at points. And like, how is music taste and worldview even relatable? Tbh i dont actually feel that strongly, or at all, for half thst stuff. So it was intended to be taken as an argument against nostalgia-goggles and for its arguments, not some aggressive attack on you.
Tl;dr I was kinda still drunk when I got home and saw that and thus an essay written at 4am. Im sorry I offended you, but at the same time I stick to the general gist of my argument.
i dont get dissin music of our time of music in the past. in fact it annoys me when people are like, herp i should have been born in the seventies cos mainstream changes over tiem
anyhui, we like wut we like and its better not to be like liek this genre>another genre or music of this time>music of now.
like i dont get people's concern with limiting to a genre or time. its silly and tryhard.
(Oh yeah, but you did say modern music is all a pile of shit, and that if you saw lady gaga or jb becoming classics you would rage, which in itself is a very strong argument.)
That's true, I was being irrational, sorry to have offended you, as well. I dunno maybe music isn't the best topic to talk about. I was making straight out generalisations about genres, because I do dislike a lot of things in certain genres. Like heavy metal is just not what I like.
I'd also like to say, yeah nostalgia goggles, I get where you are coming from there. Like even in my own life, I kinda look back at when I was 11 and how I was like a good kid, then I realised I was bullied and used to run away from home at night.
Also I guess, there is a wealth of music out there and there is music in these years that will become classics and we will age and music will change. I guess it's all just a progression and there are a lot of things that change opinion of music. So yeah, sorry, sometimes it is nice to put nostalgia goggles on, particularly when I am stressed, cause it makes me think, everything is going to be ok and that trials are only a little bump in the road.
So yeah sorry. I don't like Justin Bieber, or Rebecca Black. I do like Lady Gaga and Beyonce, but I also like Queen and Eric Clapton and John Denver. I dunno I do just like music. and sometimes I prefer older music. I guess it's also because for the last 4 weeks, the same 5 or 6 songs have been at the top of the charts and I got kinda sick of them and it's nice to listen to something different.
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